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Episode 251

  • Writer: Marisa Palmieri Shugrue
    Marisa Palmieri Shugrue
  • 4 days ago
  • 2 min read

11/13/25

Topic: When AI Picks the Pest or Lawn Company: What Businesses Must Know

Guests: Dan Gordon & Donnie Shelton

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In this episode we discuss:

  • Our sponsors Coalmarch by Workwave, PestSure & Voice for Pest

  • PMP Industry Insiders Peer Groups 

  • OpenAI's debut of the Atlas browser, which has ChatGPT built in

  • Why you might want to watch this episode to see Donnie's live demo

  • One way you can practically use Atlas — to do a SWOT analysis of your website or your competitors' sites with the "Ask ChatGPT" function

  • How you can use this tool to improve your website copy

  • How you can use the Atlas browser's premium "agent mode" — and how it is likely to affect search and consumer behavior

  • Why this fundamentally changes digital marketing, although it won't be overnight

  • How Donnie recently used this function to book a haircut

  • How Atlas is only available on Macs right now, but should be out for Windows soon

  • Whether OpenAI will be a true competitor to Google

  • Frustrations around pay-per-click's cost per lead and cost per sale

  • Whether there will be data risks and malicious actions embedded in these processes

  • How commerce will be integrated into AI platforms

  • Ways and tools Donnie is using AI at Triangle for training and information sharing

  • Actions Donnie recommends pest control businesses take now to prepare for these changes


Resources mentioned:

Notable: "The way we market and who we are marketing to is fundamentally shifting ... You're going to have to convince AI to recommend you now." —Donnie Shelton

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