Episode 232

6/26/25

Topic: From Authority to Ownership: Transform Your Business Culture

Guests: Dan Gordon & Donnie Shelton

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In this episode we discuss:

• Our sponsors Coalmarch by Workwave, PestSure & Voice for Pest

• PMP Industry Insiders Peer Groups

• How Dan learned about leadership from Ed Bradbury, former owner of Viking Termite & Pest Control (now part of Anticimex)

• Definitions of leadership

• Leadership needs in small vs. larger businesses

• The challenge of teaching leadership skills to frontline and middle management folks

• The importance of self leadership

• Why external narratives like the economy are a distraction

• Leading folks with big egos

• Why "my way or the highway" just doesn't work anymore

• Bad leadership examples

  
  

Resources mentioned:

• Jocko Willinck's podcast: https://jockopodcast.com/

• Books referenced:

  • The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber

  • Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin

  • Leadership Strategy and Tactics by Jocko Willink

  • Good to Great by Jim Collins

  • Great by Choice by Jim Collins (research-based book about companies that thrived despite chaos and uncertainty)

  • The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni

• Articles referenced:

  • The Importance Of Self-Leadership, And How It Makes You A Great Leader

  • Why People Follow the Leader: The Power of Transference

  • Managers, Are You Ready to Move Up? These Are the Responsibilities You Need to Prepare For

  • Connect, Then Lead

  • 5 Rules for Managing Superstars (and Their Egos)

• PMP Industry Insiders Podcast episodes referenced:

  • Episode 54 with Author Michael Gerber

  • Episode 173 with Author Patrick Lencioni

Notable: "Leadership is absolutely the foundation, and that foundations all starts with you and who you are and what you're all about." —Donnie Shelton

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